Two Ordinary Cops

What’s it like to be the partner of an ex-cop?? Being with someone who is a Police Officer and someone who was a Police Officer are two different things.

This special episode, Schultzy’s partner, Miriam Leask, joins the podcast to share her firsthand account of living through the devastating Christchurch earthquakes. From the terrifying moments when the earth shook beneath her feet to the long road of recovery that followed, Miriam provides a powerful and emotional insight into one of New Zealand’s darkest chapters.
Miriam reflects on the incredible support provided by police, emergency services, military personnel, and disaster response teams from across Australia and New Zealand, offering a heartfelt thank you to those who helped Christchurch when it needed it most.
The conversation then shifts to a different perspective on policing-the view from the partner of a former police officer. Miriam shares what she’s observed over the past nine years with Schultzy, including the lasting effects of the job, hypervigilance, life after policing, and a few stories that prove you can take the cop out of the police force, but you can’t always take the police force out of the cop.
A thoughtful, emotional, and at times hilarious episode about resilience, recovery, service, and the people who stand beside those who wear the badge.

🚨 Episode 127 – Christchurch Earthquakes, Life After Policing – Miriam Leask
"Even after leaving policing, some things never leave you."
In Episode 127, Miriam Leask shares her firsthand experience surviving the Christchurch earthquakes and what she's learned from living with a former police officer for the past nine years.
From disaster and recovery to hypervigilance and life beyond the badge, this is a raw and honest conversation that gives a unique perspective on the lasting impact of policing.
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🚨 Episode 126 releases today at 1600 hrs.
Why do police often see the world differently?
It's not because they're better than anyone else.
It's not because they think their job is harder.
It's because every day they deal with situations most people will never experience.
In this clip, Damo explains why policing is different from other first responder roles and how regularly seeing trauma, violence and human suffering can shape the way officers view the world.
This week's episode explores the people behind the badge, the importance of looking after those who serve, and the remarkable men and women we met at the Queensland Police Union Council.
It's an honest conversation about resilience, perspective and the realities of modern policing.
🎙️ Episode 126 available from 1600 hrs today.
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Episode 123 - The Backbone Behind the Badge with Lyn Kowalski.

For 23 years, Lyn Kowalski worked behind the scenes in the Queensland Police Service - but as you’ll hear in this episode, the job was anything but “just admin.” Find out what it’s like transcribing murder investigations, working alongside detectives, supporting officers after tragedy, and the unseen role admin staff play in keeping policing running every single day.

Behind every frontline officer is a team working tirelessly behind the scenes to keep policing moving.
Episode 123 of the Two Ordinary Cops podcast shines a light on the often unseen role of police admin staff through the story of former Queensland Police employee Lyn Kowalski, who spent 23 years supporting CIB, CPIU and frontline operations.
A raw, honest and emotional look at the people who truly are the backbone behind the badge.
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