Beyond The Science Podcast

“𝗔 𝗕𝗖𝗕𝗔 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝗮 𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗮𝗻 𝗯𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗴.”

In this clip from Episode 44 of Beyond the Science, Dr. Adam Ventura shares some constructive criticism for the BACB as AI continues to expand across industries.

He first points out something many people overlook:

The BACB has a thankless job, and at some point in our careers they’ve supported many of us.
But as AI tools begin helping with things like writing contracts, documentation, and administrative tasks, Adam raises an important question:

Where should the line be drawn?

His suggestion is simple:

There should be something in the BACB ethics code — or on their website — that clearly states that a behavior analyst must be a human being.

Because at the heart of behavior analysis is still human interaction, connection, and nuance.

Those things can’t be replicated by a machine.
🎙 Episode 44 of Beyond the Science is now live.

Watch the full episode here:
https://youtu.be/9pR7-fkAWOs?si=ikLWCir8_blLC1wU⁠

What do you think?
Should the BACB address AI more directly in the ethics code?

Are we moving too fast with AI in ABA?

In our latest sit-down with Dr. Adam Ventura, we asked him whether the field might be moving too quickly when it comes to artificial intelligence.

His answer?

“100%.”

Adam shared something interesting from his background in software development:

There’s no such thing as a perfect solution — only trade-offs.

Yes, AI can help with things like:
• writing progress notes
• generating reports
• reducing administrative workload

But every change that fixes one problem can create new ones somewhere else.

That raises an important question:

What might we lose as these tools become more common?

One concern people bring up is job security. But Adam believes behavior analysis is actually one of the safest professions.

Because the heart of what we do is human.

Our work relies on relationships, communication, social interaction, and understanding the nuances of human behavior. Those things are incredibly difficult for technology to replicate.

Adam even shared that if he had a child with special needs, he wouldn’t want them working with a robot.

He’d want them working with another human being.

And that perspective is worth sitting with.

🎙 Full episode drops Wednesday.

What do you think?

Are we moving too fast with AI in the field?

𝗟𝗼𝘃𝗲 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲𝘀 𝗺𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿… 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝘀𝗼 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗮𝗻𝗴𝘂𝗮𝗴𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗹𝗼𝘃𝗲.

We often assume people should just know what makes us feel valued.

But from a behavioral lens, love languages are really just 𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗽𝗿𝗲𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲𝘀.

Words of affirmation.
Physical touch.
Quality time.

If those things stop happening for long enough, behavior changes.

People stop feeling reinforced.

And this is where a lot of relationships drift.

Not because love disappears —
but because people stop checking in.

They stop asking:

• What makes you feel appreciated?
• What makes you feel seen?
• What actually lands for you right now?

Reinforcement changes. Preferences shift.

The spark rarely dies overnight.
It fades when we stop paying attention.

…and then Coop dropped a line:

“Everyone talks about love languages… but not the language of love.”

𝗕𝗮𝗿𝘀. 😂

What’s your love language?

Let’s be honest for a second…

If AI could take ONE part of your job as a behavior analyst, what would you choose?

A recent survey found:
📊 30% chose session notes
📊 19% chose report writing + reauthorizations

Almost half of respondents pointed to documentation.

And it makes sense.

Most of us got into this field to:
• Work with clients
• Analyze behavior
• Support families
• Train teams

Not to spend hours buried in paperwork.

What’s interesting is this perspective:

When used intentionally, AI doesn’t make ABA less behavioral — it may actually make us better clinicians.

It pushes us to:

Define behaviors more clearly
Think more critically about data
Improve decision support
Increase efficiency without sacrificing quality

The field is shifting. The question is how we lead that shift.

Drop your answer below:
If AI could take one task off your plate tomorrow, what would it be?

Love languages might not be as “romantic” as we think.

From a behavioral lens, they’re reinforcement preferences.

If someone needs words of affirmation, that’s not insecurity.
If someone prefers physical touch, that’s not clinginess.

It’s reinforcement history.

Most relationship conflict isn’t about love disappearing.
It’s about mismatched reinforcement.

We give what we like… instead of what reinforces them.
Reinforcement changes. Preferences shift.
The spark stays alive when you keep learning the person.

What’s your love language — and do you feel like it’s actually reinforced?

👇🏾 Let’s talk about it.

How do you keep pricing accessible and deliver a high-quality product?

In this clip, Charlene explains how Office Puzzle sustains a $19.99 per user, per month model by being intentional about team growth, smart investments, and where AI truly adds value.

The goal isn’t to replace people—it’s to support them, protect the customer experience, and build sustainably.

🎧 Watch the full episode now
(Link in comments)

🌎 One product. Many states. Real flexibility.

In this clip from Beyond the Science, Charlene Kurth from Office Puzzle talks about what it really takes to support providers across the country—without forcing every state into the same operational box.

Each state has different funding models, insurance rules, and approaches to care. Office Puzzle’s goal? Build a platform that adapts to those differences while staying simple, scalable, and focused on supporting clinicians.
This isn’t growth for growth’s sake—it’s about sustainability, flexibility, and continuing to innovate in ways that actually help people doing the work.

Thoughtful tools. Real support. Work that matters.

🔗 Learn more about Office Puzzle: https://www.officepuzzle.com

🎧 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/Cl8yHNzHUOw?si=1TM2SyKVvlyzC5KU

Not every leadership journey starts with a title.

In this clip from Beyond The Science, Charlene shares thoughtful advice for anyone aspiring to leadership or executive roles. Instead of focusing on the “next step,” she emphasizes the importance of doing exceptional work where you are, learning deeply, and growing into responsibility over time.

Impact comes before position—and readiness matters.
🎧 Watch the full episode here:
👉🏾 https://youtu.be/Cl8yHNzHUOw

🎙️ 𝗘𝗽𝗶𝘀𝗼𝗱𝗲 𝟰𝟯 𝗼𝗳 𝗕𝗲𝘆𝗼𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗦𝗰𝗶𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘄 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲

Some of the best ideas don’t start with a business plan—they start with someone trying to help.

In this episode, Charlene Kurth, COO of Office Puzzle, shares the origin story of what originally began as ABA Puzzle. Faced with overwhelming documentation demands and no real tools to support the work, a documentation tool was built simply to solve a real, everyday problem.

As more people began using it, the vision expanded. What started as a solution for notes became a fully integrated platform designed to help practices run smoother—inside and beyond ABA.

This conversation is a reminder that meaningful growth happens when solutions are built around people, not just systems.

🧩 This episode is powered by Office Puzzle
Learn more at officepuzzle.com
🎧 Watch the full episode here:
👉🏾 https://youtu.be/Cl8yHNzHUOw?si=1TM2SyKVvlyzC5KU

What’s a tool you’ve used that was clearly built by someone who understood your work?

🎙️ Episode 43 is LIVE for BTS+ members

In this clip, Charlene Kurth, COO of Office Puzzle, shares her proudest moment since joining the company—and it’s all about people.

Rather than leading with disruption, she focused on honoring the work already done, being honest about what needed to evolve, and bringing long-standing team members and new hires together into one aligned culture.

Her story is a reminder that growth doesn’t have to come at the expense of values.

👉 Watch the full episode — now available for BTS+ members
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📅 Public release tomorrow
What’s been the hardest part of leading through change in your organization?

Alright… we had to settle this 😅

We brought back the ultimate artist showdown on Beyond the Science, and it was Joe vs Coop, picking sides across some of the biggest music debates ever.

From legends to modern greats, the choices sparked real arguments, laughs, and a lot of “nahhh, you trippin” moments.
Now it’s your turn 👇🏽

Who are you picking in these matchups?
And who won overall — Joe or Coop?

🎧 Full episode linked in the comments.